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I am considering my vocation to the priesthood
and am looking at taking either the diocesan
path or entering an order and training there.
Either way, I'd like to be in a parish.
Is it possible to enter an order and be
sent out into a parish or is diocesan priesthood
the answer? (This question was asked
on 31st December 2006)
In practice there are some diocesan clergy who
do not work in parishes, and there are quite
a few religious who do. In both cases the ultimate
decisions about how a person exercises his
priesthood will rest with his superiors - and there
can often be a rub there! But the whole point
of the priesthood is to serve Christ and the Church
whether you are a diocesan or a religious priest,
which means expecting to find God's will expressed
in your superiors. I think that is the most important
thing that ought to be said. It is dangerous to
have too many ideas about how God should make use
of you in advance!
It is a natural thing to be attracted to the diocesan
priesthood. In a parish you see a priest doing
the central work of the priesthood, building up
the family of Christ through prayer, the sacraments
and preaching, leading and teaching God's
people. But I also think it is important to be
clear that some people's vocation is not precisely
in the path that originally attracted them. They
have had the grace of an insight into the
sacramental mystery of the Church and its evangelical inspiration,
and this is a far richer and deeper reality than
at first appears. In particular, I think
many young men are also invited to consider serving
Christ by commitment to religious life, which
has a rather special place in the life of the
Church because of the radical nature of its commitment
to Jesus by vows of evangelical life. People
like this ought to explore the broader horizons
of service to the Church to help them tune into
their sense of vocation a bit more acutely.
There are, as you may be aware, different kinds
of religious order. Monastic orders, especially
the Benedictine and the Cistercian, would see themselves,
as you realise, primarily living a community life
of prayer, work and study, and trying to make the
Gospel a living reality in their own community
and locality, as something to be shared with all-comers.
In many communities most of the monks will
be priests (though there are notable exceptions)
because such a life has an intrinsically priestly
character as a sacrificial offering to God for
the good of the Church and the salvation of
the world. In many cases, especially in the
English speaking world (much less so in France,
Spain or Italy), Benedictine monasteries have
become pastoral centres of different kinds - perhaps
with school or colleges, very often with parish
responsibilities and retreat work, and always through
hospitality, the ministry of reconciliation and
so on. This work is not essential to monastic life
as such, but it is a vital way communities have
learnt to live out their commitment within
the Church.
What drives you? Why did you decide to
become a monk? (This question was asked
on 15th December 2006)
When I was at university, I realised that whatever
else God wanted me to do with my life, I had
to put prayer at the centre of it. At the time
I was becoming a Catholic, and it was a time
where a lot of me was beginning to go into a melting pot.
God was the only stable point I realised, but I
also realised I had no real knowledge of him:
I just had to pray. It was a call to contemplative
prayer, and it remains terribly important
in my life, even though I have ended up quite a
busy monk as well! Certainly I
had a pretty clear idea that it was essential
to live for others. When I first visited Downside
(to watch a cricket match) I was completely mystified
at one level about what went on here and what drove
people to give themselves to this way of life.
But at another level, I had to admit it was
exactly what I needed to experience - a community
of people living a life inspired by the Gospel,
with prayer at the very centre of their lives,
and trying to live for others.
I used to return here in vacations to do some
reading, and got to know one or two members
of the community much better, whom I realised were
the more human for their living monastic life.
So when I got to the end of university, and it
was suggested to me I ought to become an accountant,
everything in me reacted against this idea (I have
subsequently had to learn to read accounts!),
and I knew that even if I did not know what to do,
I had to give Downside a go first; I would never
be at peace otherwise.
And why I stayed? Which is part of the answer
to your other question. I found a place where I could
pray; I found a community that combined values
that were very dear to me, those of prayer and
faith with a love of learning and of humanity.
It has always seemed to me to be a way of living
a well centred Christian life to the absolute
full, a way I could integrate things I hold dear,
and live it out for others - in ways I had
never dreamt of.
It has not, of course been problem free, but at
a crisis point later on in my monastic life,
I knew that in spite of everything, Downside had
made me a much better and more generous person
than I would otherwise have known how to be. It
is a matter of love in the end. And that is
what keeps going day by day.
How can monks suppress all creativity? (This
question was asked on 3rd December 2006)
Thanks for your question. I wondered what idea
you have of monastic life, but I do want to assure
you that it is not about suppressing creativity.
Indeed there have been many fine monastic artists,
architects, and musicians, to name but a few
areas where monks have been creative. Many monasteries
earn their living by creative art (e.g. ceramics,
sculpture, carpentry etc.). And even teaching
and helping people of all ages grow in their faith
is creative. Like parenting, it is a spiritual
fatherhood.
It is true that an element of the tradition of
monastic wisdom is to make an act of total
surrender at the outset, so that one's personality
can be reshaped and nourished by the monastic sources
of humanity and spirituality. The purpose of this
renunciation is to purify the human gifts, not
to reject them but to put them at the service of
God and of the Church. A concert pianist may
not be able to play much at the outset of monastic
life - and certainly not in the same kind of
way as he perhaps did before joining. He may discover
new forms of musicality in himself. He could play
to accompany the liturgy, or turn to the singing
of plainchant (as I did); he could develop his
skills as a composer. That does not mean a loss
of creativity, but a re-sourcing of it. He may
- as I know one Abbot did - return to the concert
hall to raise money for a new monastery!
A monk will, I hope, want to use all his gifts
for the service of Christ and the Church.
At a practical level that may mean giving up writing
novels (or scholarship) in order to write
something more directly aimed at helping others
grown in their faith and spiritual life.
But there is self-discipline too. The Christian
tradition also speaks a lot of the value of pruning.
It is not to kill, but to enable a more fruitful
life. That goes beyond the standard wisdom
of the need for discipline in the training of an artist's
skill and creativity. But it builds on it. It goes
beyond it in its insight into the fact that
human life is into transformation, and that needs
wintering and re-birthing; it is not just
a matter of uninhibited growth.
It is a very big topic this. But I hope I have
shown you a bit about the way the monastic tradition
on this is to be understood.
Does your lifestyle necessitate being
away from people? The Bible says we should
be "in the world, but not of the world." How
does monastic life help spread the Gospel? (This
question was asked on 30th November 2006)
All Christians are called to be witnesses to the
Gospel and to spread the Good News of the
Kingdom. Monks do this by living out their monastic
life to the full, just as a parent does it by living
marriage to the full as well as in their secular
commitments in the world. We do not join monasteries
to get away from the people, but to find God and
do his will. That means for us a certain way of
living that gives a very high priority to prayer.
But that is central to the life of the Church,
and we help support those who cannot make enough
time for it. We are not in the ‘front line’ of
the Church’s mission, but a monastery too
will usually have a lot of links with the local
church and the local community; people will come
to it for all sorts of reason, either to visit,
to receive spiritual guidance or instruction, for
education, etc. etc. In each of these particular
contacts, monks will also be working to help
preach the Gospel by their lives. Monastic life
is never a rejection of the world in that
sense, and a person who was trying to avoid the
world for a quiet life or from fear or whatever,
would not be well suited to monastic life.
How does prayer invigorate your day
to day living? (This question was
asked on 5th November 2006)
A very interesting and deep question. The answer
lies in seeing how prayer is not so much asking
God for things as listening, or better, opening
yourself up to the presence of God in the depths
of your heart. We do not usually live at - or out
of - this depth. But the regular practice of prayer
as a search for God helps us find this new level
of existence. At the very depth our life our spirit
is in communion with a dimension of spirit.
It is a dimension that takes us, in one sense,
out of or beyond ourselves - transcendence. An
awful lot of qualifications need to be entered
here which I must omit. The point is that
in this dimension of the spirit, we can draw in
the Holy Spirit, which, as St Paul says, is
the love of Christ, which he pours out in our hearts.
There are a lot of other unpleasant smells
in the air too, and we could choose to live by
them instead. They are what I would call the spirit
of this world, pride and a love of self etc. The
invigoration of our daily lives comes from the
fact that if we live at this level more - by prayer
- we will be conscious of a deeper and more vital
strength that comes not from ourselves but
from God. But it also means we have to learn to
live according to that spirit. It is not just a
higher-octane fuel to go on living the way
we want to live! At this level, too, we can learn
a sense of detachment from the immediate hectoring
of our everyday commitments. Not that they are
unimportant. But they need to be seen in
a truer perspective, and in that perspective we
do not matter quite so much - there is a deeper
source of strength that operates not just
through me and my decisions. We are all in the
hands of God. Prayer wakes us up to that vital
and life-giving truth.
What happens to your assets you acquired
before you became a monk, like your house or
car or your savings, or the money you got for
selling these assets before you went into the
monastery? I know that you share all things
when you are a monk but it got to me thinking
about your assets before your Monastic life,
were you meant to share those or do you keep
them? (This question was asked on
21st October 2006)
The simple answer is that before making final profession
a monk has to give all his worldly goods away.
He can give them to the monastery. But monastic
life is a life of poverty, which means we bring
nothing into the monastery that we claim as our
own. Things like clothes, books and the like (where
they are needed for our personal work) may well
be retained in our personal use, but they do not
belong to us any more, they should be kept to the
minimum appropriate to our lives as monks, and
we make a formal list of them each year for the
Abbot to be aware of even the little things we
use so that we can do so with his knowledge and
consent.
I read in one of the previous replies
that you are not allowed the internet in your
rooms? Why is this? (This question
was asked on 18th October 2006)
It is a question of mental space. A monk's cell
is better for being relatively clear of distracting
nonsense that only feeds 'mental noise'. The internet
is full of such stuff. Sadly, it is virtually impossible
to control, and it is extremely easy for anyone
to get hooked on rubbish. Keeping the cell a place
to get away from ‘mental noise’ is
vital for a monk to have space and solitude to
seek God. The ancient monks used to say: stay in
your cell, it will teach you everything. There
is a lot in that.
I find my world an increasingly noisy
place, lacking in the time and space to think,
reflect, and just generally find peace! Even
my church sometimes seems a fraught and pressurised
place to be!! I think people think that people
like me just 'can't cope' with life. Don't
you think we should all slow down a bit, and
take stock, as it were? (This question
was asked on 18th October 2006)
People need to find themselves and not rush around
trying to justify themselves by performance. It
is all ego-obsessive, not real.
Why do you take your vows? (This
question was asked on 15th October 2006)
We take vows because this is how we believe we
can give our lives to God and live for him. That
is how monks try to respond to God's love and to
live in that love and reflect that love in their
lives for others. The best thing we can do with
our lives is to give them to another. By giving
them to God we also hope that God will be able
to use us to help others, as only he knows how.
What's the difference between a monk
and a priest? (This question was asked
on 12th October 2006)
This is quite a tricky question to answer, because
in practice most monks (I guess) are actually also
priests. But it is very important to understand
they do not need to be. And nuns, at any rate in
the Catholic Church, share the monastic life we
try to live - but are not priests. Many monks too
choose not to be priests.
A monk is essentially a person who is seeking for
God, and is trying to do so in the particular ways
you find in the monastic tradition, by giving up
the usual means to human fulfilment in the world
in order to live wholly for God. There is a lot
about this on our website. Most monks pursue this
way of life in a community, so we seek God together
with our brethren and we seek him in them, as well
as in others who come to the monastery for one
reason or another. The monastic path is essentially
a path of prayer, both personal and communal, and
it is really about listening to God and Jesus Christ,
cultivating a sense of God’s presence and
paying attention to him in everything we do.
Monks seem to do a very wide range of things too.
At Downside we do most of our work with other people,
in the school and with guests and others who come
to us, as well as on parishes and retreats etc.
Because of the nature of much of our work is so
pastoral and directed to building up the faith
and Christian lives of others, we actually live
a working life very similar to that of priests
- and it is a natural thing for us to be ordained
as priests to do this. But we do this work as an
outreach from a way of life that is not essentially
priestly, but rather a personal and whole-hearted
search for God.
Historically monks quite soon began to be ordained
as priests. This was because of the liturgical
worship of monasteries, and the desire for Mass
to be celebrated not only for the sacramental life
of the community, but also for individual Catholics
outside, as well as for the Church as a whole.
Then it became obligatory to be a priest! That
changed with Vatican 2, but by that time the lives
of many monastic communities had been heavily stamped
with a tradition of liturgical worship or pastoral
work that most of all marks out the life of a priest.
But it is a historical rather than a necessary
link. But it works out quite well in practice.
A priest, on the other hand, is someone who is
ordained for the service of the Church and will
normally be at the service of a local Church community.
That is his primary role. He is seeking God too,
of course, but his search takes him into the world
as a shepherd and teacher of the faith, and as
the person who gathers the faithful together for
worship. A priest must be man of prayer, but his
identity will be found in relationship with others – among
those he serves as a priest.
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